Domain Administratorhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/domain_administratorFreebase Atom Feed Generatorhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/musicMusic2008-09-06T22:54:25Zarielbhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/arielb<p>and some more ideas:</p><p>to whom the composition was dedicated is often interesting.</p><p>who (person, or sometimes entity such as the san francisco opera) commisioned the work is also often interesting. </p><p>location, date, and performer of the premeir is also often interesting. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090b663dand some more ideas: to whom the composition was dedicated is often interesting. who (person, or...Music: dates and location of composition2008-09-06T18:19:09.0012Zarielbhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/arielb<p>and some more ideas:</p><p>to whom the composition was dedicated is often interesting.</p><p>who (person, or sometimes entity such as the san francisco opera) commisioned the work is also often interesting. </p><p>location, date, and performer of the premeir is also often interesting. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090b663dand some more ideas: to whom the composition was dedicated is often interesting. who (person, or...Composition: dates and location of composition2008-09-06T18:19:09.0012Zarielbhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/arielb<p>can we add dates for when a work was composed (start, end)? i'd like to start building timeline visualizations of this. this is particularly applicable to classical music but could be generally useful. for instance a timeline of brahms's symphonys (it took him ~14 years to write it because he felt so pressured coming after beethoven's 9th).</p><p>secondly - place composed (probably non unique) would be interesting for mapping the works composed. for example - dvorak's new world symphony and american string quartet, and mapping liszt's travels. in general there's quite a lot of data on location composed particularly for classical music that we could easily structure.</p><p> thirdly - and this is more complicated, at least for classical music, we should capture the catalog ID - which for many composers is an opus, number combination, but for mozart it was K for <a href="/view/en/ludwig_ritter_von_kochel">Ludwig Ritter von Köchel</a> and haydn and bach also had their own thing.</p><p>fourthly - we should also capture <a href="/view/en/a_minor">key</a> for classical compositions. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090b65d1can we add dates for when a work was composed (start, end)? i'd like to start building...Music: dates and location of composition2008-09-06T18:14:53.0018Zarielbhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/arielb<p>can we add dates for when a work was composed (start, end)? i'd like to start building timeline visualizations of this. this is particularly applicable to classical music but could be generally useful. for instance a timeline of brahms's symphonys (it took him ~14 years to write it because he felt so pressured coming after beethoven's 9th).</p><p>secondly - place composed (probably non unique) would be interesting for mapping the works composed. for example - dvorak's new world symphony and american string quartet, and mapping liszt's travels. in general there's quite a lot of data on location composed particularly for classical music that we could easily structure.</p><p> thirdly - and this is more complicated, at least for classical music, we should capture the catalog ID - which for many composers is an opus, number combination, but for mozart it was K for <a href="/view/en/ludwig_ritter_von_kochel">Ludwig Ritter von Köchel</a> and haydn and bach also had their own thing.</p><p>fourthly - we should also capture <a href="/view/en/a_minor">key</a> for classical compositions. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090b65d1can we add dates for when a work was composed (start, end)? i'd like to start building...Composition: dates and location of composition2008-09-06T18:14:53.0018Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Yes, I see your point, but it looks UGLY. Is there a way, then, of getting rid of the "Songwriter" from the page? If we cannot use it, it is better not to have it there at all. Why keep useless things? Please have a look at Cage, his page could look REALLY good if it was not for these 2 empty boxes. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090b4667Yes, I see your point, but it looks UGLY. Is there a way, then, of getting rid of the "...Music: Songs composed2008-09-06T04:30:39.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Yes, I see your point, but it looks UGLY. Is there a way, then, of getting rid of the "Songwriter" from the page? If we cannot use it, it is better not to have it there at all. Why keep useless things? Please have a look at Cage, his page could look REALLY good if it was not for these 2 empty boxes. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090b4667Yes, I see your point, but it looks UGLY. Is there a way, then, of getting rid of the "...Songwriter: Songs composed2008-09-06T04:30:39.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crism<p>The <em>Lyricist</em> type has the property “Lyrics Written.”</p><p>Some types, like <em>Songwriter</em>, are only used to classify topics, and have no properties of their own. We generally try to avoid them, but <em>Songwriter</em> was added to the system early on.</p><p>As I said in <a href="/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009022120">our earlier discussion</a>, the notion of which compositions are songs and which are not is too subjective to easily divide. Many people regard Cage as a cutting-edge composer, and would consider calling his compositions “songs” dismissive. Rather than provoke edit wars, it is simpler to regard all musical compositions equally in Freebase. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000904b640The Lyricist type has the property “Lyrics Written.” Some types, like Songwriter, are...Music: Songs composed2008-09-05T21:47:51.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crism<p>The <em>Lyricist</em> type has the property “Lyrics Written.”</p><p>Some types, like <em>Songwriter</em>, are only used to classify topics, and have no properties of their own. We generally try to avoid them, but <em>Songwriter</em> was added to the system early on.</p><p>As I said in <a href="/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009022120">our earlier discussion</a>, the notion of which compositions are songs and which are not is too subjective to easily divide. Many people regard Cage as a cutting-edge composer, and would consider calling his compositions “songs” dismissive. Rather than provoke edit wars, it is simpler to regard all musical compositions equally in Freebase. </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000904b640The Lyricist type has the property “Lyrics Written.” Some types, like Songwriter, are...Songwriter: Songs composed2008-09-05T21:47:51.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Good morning, Cris, did you see my 3 wonderful philosophers on the front page today??</p><p>Sure, I can do that, but it is not nice to have empty spaces on the page. Look at Cage, please, what is the use of the "Songwriter" "Lyricist" boxes if we cannot put anything in them? It simply does not look good. Cage wrote songs... </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000904ac7bGood morning, Cris, did you see my 3 wonderful philosophers on the front page today?? Sure, I can do...Music: Songs composed2008-09-05T17:17:07.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Good morning, Cris, did you see my 3 wonderful philosophers on the front page today??</p><p>Sure, I can do that, but it is not nice to have empty spaces on the page. Look at Cage, please, what is the use of the "Songwriter" "Lyricist" boxes if we cannot put anything in them? It simply does not look good. Cage wrote songs... </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000904ac7bGood morning, Cris, did you see my 3 wonderful philosophers on the front page today?? Sure, I can do...Songwriter: Songs composed2008-09-05T17:17:07.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crism<p>He has the <em>Songwriter</em> type, which as I said before is a shorthand for both <em>Composer</em> and <em>Lyricist</em>. <em>Songwriter</em> has no properties of its own.</p><p>He also has the <em>Composer</em> type with several “Works Composed” already entered. You can add to that list.</p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000904a9e8He has the Songwriter type, which as I said before is a shorthand for both Composer and Lyricist. ...Music: Songs composed2008-09-05T16:11:46.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crism<p>He has the <em>Songwriter</em> type, which as I said before is a shorthand for both <em>Composer</em> and <em>Lyricist</em>. <em>Songwriter</em> has no properties of its own.</p><p>He also has the <em>Composer</em> type with several “Works Composed” already entered. You can add to that list.</p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000904a9e8He has the Songwriter type, which as I said before is a shorthand for both Composer and Lyricist. ...Songwriter: Songs composed2008-09-05T16:11:46.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1... then why does John Cage have the "Song composer" type without anything on it?? http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090492bd... then why does John Cage have the "Song composer" type without anything on it?? Music: Songs composed2008-09-05T05:41:45.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1... then why does John Cage have the "Song composer" type without anything on it?? http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090492bd... then why does John Cage have the "Song composer" type without anything on it?? Songwriter: Songs composed2008-09-05T05:41:45.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismPlease use the “Works Composed” property of the <em>Composer</em> type.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009048ec7Please use the “Works Composed” property of the Composer type. Music: Songs composed2008-09-05T04:32:42.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismPlease use the “Works Composed” property of the <em>Composer</em> type.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009048ec7Please use the “Works Composed” property of the Composer type. Songwriter: Songs composed2008-09-05T04:32:42.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1Cris, please give us "Songs composed," I need it for John Cage. Thank you http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009048b48Cris, please give us "Songs composed," I need it for John Cage. Thank you Music: Songs composed2008-09-05T03:52:57.0018Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1Cris, please give us "Songs composed," I need it for John Cage. Thank you http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009048b48Cris, please give us "Songs composed," I need it for John Cage. Thank you Songwriter: Songs composed2008-09-05T03:52:57.0018Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Cris, please, we need "Orchestras conducted." Thank you</p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009033ebaCris, please, we need "Orchestras conducted." Thank you Music: Orchestras conducted2008-08-30T10:53:22.0011Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Cris, please, we need "Orchestras conducted." Thank you</p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009033ebaCris, please, we need "Orchestras conducted." Thank you Conductor: Orchestras conducted2008-08-30T10:53:22.0011Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1Ok, thank youhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902cb3bOk, thank you Music: Concert Hall2008-08-28T22:54:42.0001Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismGo ahead and create a type in your own domain, then, as a prototype. We have generally eschewed types in the Commons that have no properties, but it is possible that your type will evolve. I would recommend that you include <a href="/view/architecture/structure"><em>Structure</em></a> and <a href="/view/location/location"><em>Location</em></a> in your type.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902be40Go ahead and create a type in your own domain, then, as a prototype. We have generally eschewed...Music: Concert Hall2008-08-28T20:54:28.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1I am not thinking of any new properties, I only need the list at the momenthttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902bb90I am not thinking of any new properties, I only need the list at the moment Music: Concert Hall2008-08-28T20:13:33.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismTake a look at <a href="/view/user/micahsaul">Micah’s</a> draft <a href="/view/user/micahsaul/default_domain/performance_venue"><em>Performance Venue</em></a> type and <a href="/view/user/robert">Robert’s</a> draft <a href="/view/user/robert/performance/performance_venue"><em>Performance venue</em></a> as well. A concert hall is a kind of performance venue; what additional properties would it need that these <em>Performance venue</em> types don’t have?http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902b85aTake a look at Micah’s draft Performance Venue type and Robert’s draft Performance venue...Music: Concert Hall2008-08-28T19:25:00.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Cris, </p><p>we need the "Concert Hall" Type and a list of concert halls, please. There are practically hundreds of them in the world</p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902aa39Cris, we need the "Concert Hall" Type and a list of concert halls, please. There are...Music: Concert Hall2008-08-28T17:47:05.0005Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1Why can't we have "Songwriter" with "Songs composed"? It makes sense and we need ithttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009026d87Why can't we have "Songwriter" with "Songs composed"? It makes sense and we...Music: Works composed 2008-08-28T00:07:15.0000Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1Why can't we have "Songwriter" with "Songs composed"? It makes sense and we need ithttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009026d87Why can't we have "Songwriter" with "Songs composed"? It makes sense and we...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-28T00:07:15.0000Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismCurrently, <em>Songwriter</em> has no properties of its own. It is a convenience type which includes <em>Composer</em> (with “Works composed”) and <em>Lyricist</em> (with “Lyrics written”), as well as <em>Person</em> (with all its properties).http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009025292Currently, Songwriter has no properties of its own. It is a convenience type which includes Composer...Music: Works composed 2008-08-27T20:21:08.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismCurrently, <em>Songwriter</em> has no properties of its own. It is a convenience type which includes <em>Composer</em> (with “Works composed”) and <em>Lyricist</em> (with “Lyrics written”), as well as <em>Person</em> (with all its properties).http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009025292Currently, Songwriter has no properties of its own. It is a convenience type which includes Composer...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-27T20:21:08.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Alright, I see your point. So what do we have now?</p><p>Songwriter with Songs composed and</p><p>Composer with Works composed ?</p><p>If so, then everything is fine </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024de7Alright, I see your point. So what do we have now? Songwriter with Songs composed and Composer with...Music: Works composed 2008-08-27T19:13:40.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Alright, I see your point. So what do we have now?</p><p>Songwriter with Songs composed and</p><p>Composer with Works composed ?</p><p>If so, then everything is fine </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024de7Alright, I see your point. So what do we have now? Songwriter with Songs composed and Composer with...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-27T19:13:40.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismBut Billy Joel has composed <a href="/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000000400881">classical music</a>. <a href="/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000089fc04">So has</a> Paul McCartney. It doesn’t make sense to shoehorn their classical compositions into a song bucket just because most of their work has been songs.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024c1fBut Billy Joel has composed classical music. So has Paul McCartney. It doesn’t make sense to...Music: Works composed 2008-08-27T18:39:57.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismBut Billy Joel has composed <a href="/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000000400881">classical music</a>. <a href="/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000089fc04">So has</a> Paul McCartney. It doesn’t make sense to shoehorn their classical compositions into a song bucket just because most of their work has been songs.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024c1fBut Billy Joel has composed classical music. So has Paul McCartney. It doesn’t make sense to...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-27T18:39:57.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>I did not mean to separate the songs from the works "within" the same composer! I wanted to keep Billy Joel and Schubert separately!! </p><p>"Songs composed" = Billy</p><p>"Works composed" = Schubert </p><p>That's why we need both categories </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090245dcI did not mean to separate the songs from the works "within" the same composer! I wanted...Music: Works composed 2008-08-27T17:58:30.0005Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>I did not mean to separate the songs from the works "within" the same composer! I wanted to keep Billy Joel and Schubert separately!! </p><p>"Songs composed" = Billy</p><p>"Works composed" = Schubert </p><p>That's why we need both categories </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090245dcI did not mean to separate the songs from the works "within" the same composer! I wanted...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-27T17:58:30.0005Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1That's correct, thank you! http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902448bThat's correct, thank you! Music: Arranger2008-08-27T17:51:09.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1That's correct, thank you! http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902448bThat's correct, thank you! Composer: Arranger2008-08-27T17:51:09.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismI disagree pretty strongly. Artistic judgments, particularly judgments of quality (when does a mere song rise to the level of composition?) are so very subjective as to invite edit wars. We have the <a href="/view/music/songwriter"><em>Songwriter</em></a> type with which a <a href="/view/music/composer"><em>Composer</em></a> can be co-typed if appropriate. But segregating the works—are <a href="/view/en/franz_schubert">Schubert’s</a> <em>Lieder</em> songs, or compositions? And what about career songwriters like <a href="/view/en/billy_joel">Billy Joel</a> or <a href="/view/en/paul_mccartney">Paul McCartney</a> who start writing classical compositions late in life?http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902443bI disagree pretty strongly. Artistic judgments, particularly judgments of quality (when does a mere...Music: Works composed 2008-08-27T17:41:55.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismI disagree pretty strongly. Artistic judgments, particularly judgments of quality (when does a mere song rise to the level of composition?) are so very subjective as to invite edit wars. We have the <a href="/view/music/songwriter"><em>Songwriter</em></a> type with which a <a href="/view/music/composer"><em>Composer</em></a> can be co-typed if appropriate. But segregating the works—are <a href="/view/en/franz_schubert">Schubert’s</a> <em>Lieder</em> songs, or compositions? And what about career songwriters like <a href="/view/en/billy_joel">Billy Joel</a> or <a href="/view/en/paul_mccartney">Paul McCartney</a> who start writing classical compositions late in life?http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000902443bI disagree pretty strongly. Artistic judgments, particularly judgments of quality (when does a mere...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-27T17:41:55.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismI just edited the <a href="/view/en/yellow_river_concerto"><em>Yellow River Piano Concerto</em></a>. It is now credited to <a href="/view/en/yin_chengzong">the arranger</a>, but also marked as an arragnement of the <a href="/view/en/yellow_river_cantata"><em>Yellow River Cantata</em></a>, which has <a href="/view/en/xian_xinghai">its own composer</a>.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024412I just edited the Yellow River Piano Concerto. It is now credited to the arranger, but also marked...Music: Arranger2008-08-27T17:36:16.0005Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismI just edited the <a href="/view/en/yellow_river_concerto"><em>Yellow River Piano Concerto</em></a>. It is now credited to <a href="/view/en/yin_chengzong">the arranger</a>, but also marked as an arragnement of the <a href="/view/en/yellow_river_cantata"><em>Yellow River Cantata</em></a>, which has <a href="/view/en/xian_xinghai">its own composer</a>.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024412I just edited the Yellow River Piano Concerto. It is now credited to the arranger, but also marked...Composer: Arranger2008-08-27T17:36:16.0005Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Hey, this is fantastic! The truth is we need BOTH. There are composers who only write songs, for them is it good to have the "Songs composed" property.</p><p>Others write all sorts of things and for them we need the "Works composed." </p><p>One should have the choice between the two alternatives, use the one which is needed and let the other one obscured </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090243a1Hey, this is fantastic! The truth is we need BOTH. There are composers who only write songs, for...Music: Works composed 2008-08-27T17:31:22.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1<p>Hey, this is fantastic! The truth is we need BOTH. There are composers who only write songs, for them is it good to have the "Songs composed" property.</p><p>Others write all sorts of things and for them we need the "Works composed." </p><p>One should have the choice between the two alternatives, use the one which is needed and let the other one obscured </p>http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090243a1Hey, this is fantastic! The truth is we need BOTH. There are composers who only write songs, for...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-27T17:31:22.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1That's true, so what do we do, for example when a composer takes a cantata and makes it into a PIANO CONCERTO?? I just had this problem with Xian Xinghai who wrote the <em>Yellow River Cantata</em>, which was transformed by a Chinese pianist into the <em>Yellow River Piano Concerto! </em>Wh<em>o </em>does take the credit for the new composition? I think the "arranger," but at the moment there is no way how we can credit HIM. You, as a pianist, should care about this... http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024369That's true, so what do we do, for example when a composer takes a cantata and makes it into a...Music: Arranger2008-08-27T17:24:17.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1That's true, so what do we do, for example when a composer takes a cantata and makes it into a PIANO CONCERTO?? I just had this problem with Xian Xinghai who wrote the <em>Yellow River Cantata</em>, which was transformed by a Chinese pianist into the <em>Yellow River Piano Concerto! </em>Wh<em>o </em>does take the credit for the new composition? I think the "arranger," but at the moment there is no way how we can credit HIM. You, as a pianist, should care about this... http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009024369That's true, so what do we do, for example when a composer takes a cantata and makes it into a...Composer: Arranger2008-08-27T17:24:17.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismI wrestled with this for a while before deciding the other way. Sometimes it’s very clear, as Grainger’s several arrangements of his setting of “Country Gardens.” However, sometimes it’s much blurrier; the folk song “Country Gardens” existed for centuries before Grainger did his definitive scoring of it. Consider also Jimi Hendrix’s arrangement of “The Star-Spangled Banner,” Coltrane’s “My Favorite Things,” or the notion that the 1812 Overture is an arrangement of “La Marseillaise” and the Russian national anthem. The <em>Arrangement</em> type makes the nature of the composition clear, but the creative rôle of the arranger is hard to limit so precisely.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009023a73I wrestled with this for a while before deciding the other way. Sometimes it’s very clear, as...Music: Arranger2008-08-27T15:04:25.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismI wrestled with this for a while before deciding the other way. Sometimes it’s very clear, as Grainger’s several arrangements of his setting of “Country Gardens.” However, sometimes it’s much blurrier; the folk song “Country Gardens” existed for centuries before Grainger did his definitive scoring of it. Consider also Jimi Hendrix’s arrangement of “The Star-Spangled Banner,” Coltrane’s “My Favorite Things,” or the notion that the 1812 Overture is an arrangement of “La Marseillaise” and the Russian national anthem. The <em>Arrangement</em> type makes the nature of the composition clear, but the creative rôle of the arranger is hard to limit so precisely.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000009023a73I wrestled with this for a while before deciding the other way. Sometimes it’s very clear, as...Composer: Arranger2008-08-27T15:04:25.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismThis is a good point. I’ve renamed the “Songs composed” property to “Works composed”; it already expected the <em>Composition</em> type but was poorly named.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090239aaThis is a good point. I’ve renamed the “Songs composed” property to “Works...Music: Works composed 2008-08-27T14:59:38.0012Zcrismhttp://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/crismThis is a good point. I’ve renamed the “Songs composed” property to “Works composed”; it already expected the <em>Composition</em> type but was poorly named.http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090239aaThis is a good point. I’ve renamed the “Songs composed” property to “Works...Composer: Works composed 2008-08-27T14:59:38.0012Zcarmenmfenn1http://www.freebase.com:80/view/user/carmenmfenn1Some composers are good arrangers, again, one cannot mix their arrangements with their original compositions, that is a differernt category... http://www.freebase.com:80/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000090221bfSome composers are good arrangers, again, one cannot mix their arrangements with their original...Music: Arranger2008-08-27T06:13:40.0018Z